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[klezmer]

My first Thanksgiving Day ever. Learning a lot of things about it. E.g., - it's a yontef when one can do everything like it's not; people eat turkey with cranberry sauce on it, something else (I don't remember); people watch football (I guess, American one); people sing together. Alright, I'll see tomorrow what else people do here. And - I am part (or a particle) of the people now, though in an acculturation carantine.
Happy Thanksgiving Day everyone! A freylekhn danktog alemen!

Comments

[sandrixxx.livejournal.com]

наши тоже празднуют?

[klezmer.livejournal.com]

Да, поэтому и написал - yonter when one can do ev'thing :-)

[teftela.livejournal.com]

вкусной индюшки!

[klezmer.livejournal.com]

Spasibo, taki byla vkusnaya!

[tiny-rat.livejournal.com]

Hi! Happy Thanksgiving to you too! I'm just curious what did you mean by "other parts of your body"? I hope not your liver :-)

[klezmer.livejournal.com]

Thanks! 2U2!
Other parts means, my whole body sounds like Gimpel Tam :)

Спасибо

[tiny-rat.livejournal.com]

А то подумала, может аномалия какая-то новая.., мигрирующие уши, например :-)(шучу, не обижайтесь). Вчера, в связи с Вашим сообщением, вспомнила анекдот :-):
Один современный художник жалуется приятелю:
"У меня такой неприятный случай, недавно нарисовал портрет одной своей модели, так она теперь просит изменить на картине цвет ее глаз на темно-зеленый".
"Ну..., а почему бы нет. Это принципиально?".
"Да, нет..., но ты понимаешь, я никак не могу вспомнить, на каком месте я нарисовал ее глаза"

Re: Спасибо

[klezmer.livejournal.com]

Otlichnyi anek! :-)

is it good for the Jews?

[tsimbler.livejournal.com]

You note the similarity/difference from a yuntif. Three opinions are of course required. Thanksgiving Day (US) is:

A) not for Jews, so offer to cover at work for others so you can take off on Simkhas Torah

B) as Jewish as it comes, in fact, the Puritans got the idea from reading the Bible and the instructions for Sukkos.

C) Very Jewish in nature, but we do "Thanksgiving" every morning on arising, and we do the Feast aspect every Shabbos, so what's the big deal?

In my shul, we do not do takhanun on Thanksgiving; but that's a very Masorti point of view: the "part of America, and yet distinct" POV; versus one or the other.

Then there's the question of kashrut. There were no turkeys in the desert. They weren't there at Sinai. Kashrut for birds is more difficult than for mammals. Birds of prey are right out, but turkeys have confused Europeans for centuries. It hasn't always refered to the same bird, even.

The reason the turkey used at Thanksgiving is kosher is simply because it
has been accepted as such since the 18th century; and to now rule it non-kosher would posthumously change many highly regarded ancestors into traif-eaters.

Had the question been taken up in th 17th century, or the 21st, chances are good turkey would not be considered kosher. Many times, custom trumps halacha and becomes halacha, but in this case, the status as custom does halachially cause the status to stand.

But this is all too complicated. Thanksgiving is a perfect day-before-erev-Shabbos when I'm off work, so I can drive to Monsey and get some good kosher bison (cause the stores are open in Monsey) for Shabbos.

Re: is it good for the Jews?

[klezmer.livejournal.com]

Thanks for such an interesting comment! It gives some ideas, but I don't think that eating turkey nowadays is such a makhloket. Let me remind you of the fact that some 2,000 years ago eating poultry with cheese was quite a normal thing among the Jews. The things are changing :-)